Coffee Tea or Heated Seats

Keurig

It doesn’t make the best coffee, but it is hot enough for me.

I’m not auditioning for a flight attendant job. Neither am I offering you a hot drink or a warm place to sit. Nope, I’m calling attention to three things I don’t do correctly…at least according to my wife and daughter. I should be more specific, my wife and daughter aren’t in total agreement as to the grievous nature of my crimes against all things hot and proper. Having gone public with times when my wife and I have different views, I am not expecting a lot of sympathy.

Let’s start with coffee. I drink a lot of coffee. I don’t like iced coffee, but I don’t like really hot coffee either. I like my coffee somewhere, actually anywhere between no-longer-hot and lukewarm. That’s one of the reasons I add milk to my coffee. When I drank black coffee, I put an ice cube in the cup. My wife likes her coffee hot. She also likes her coffee fresh. I don’t care about fresh. On any given Saturday, my wife drinks a cup or two of fresh coffee between 4:00 am and 6:00 am. I drink the rest of the pot between 6:00 am and when it runs dry. If it hasn’t run dry by 10:00 am, my wife will offer to brew a new pot. If I don’t want much more coffee, I’ll just schlup the dregs into my cup and call it a day.

I’ve explained to her how my college roommate and I brewed a fresh pot every Sunday. On Monday through Friday, we added water and instant coffee to the percolator and heated it back up to a nice easy boil. Once, when we were studying for exams, we “brewed” an extra pot on Friday night. A friend stopped in:

Mmmm, do I smell coffee?

Yep, we just made a fresh pot – want some?

So, you would think she would understand that fresh is relative and six hours is a very young age for a pot of coffee in my book.

I also like tea. I know my followers well enough to make a list of the ones who are going to be squirming in their seats in a minute. Please understand, I will never make you a cup of tea. While my daughter learned how to handle bad/old coffee in Art School, she learned how to make tea from her mother. They are lined up against me on this one. Maybe the fastest way to get past this is to use bullets:

  • I drink Lipton tea. I sometimes drink one of the thousands of specialty teas my wife keeps in stock, but Lipton, with its patented flow-through bag is good tea in my book.
  • I make tea with water from a hot water dispenser which aims to deliver 190° water at the lift of a lever. 190° is more than hot enough for tea. My wife and daughter use a kettle.
  • I let the tea steep from the time I pour the hot water in until I get downstairs to my comfy-chair. I dispose of the tea bag before sitting. Roughly speaking, that’s about 35 seconds.
  • I drink tea anywhere between the kinda-sorta 190° and the point at which it freezes. No milk, no sugar.

Yes, yes, I know…

Temp scale

My thoughts on temperatures that matter.

As for seat heaters, my wife and my daughter are joined at the hip in opposition to my thoughts on the proper use of heated seats. I think the purpose of the seat heater is to take the chill off the seat. Your body is perfectly capable of keeping your butt warm after that point. On a cold day, i.e. outside temperature below 32° f (0° c), I turn the seat heater on high for about two minutes. Then I step it down to low for another 30 seconds and then I turn it off. I expect my passengers to observe a similar pattern.

They don’t.

I wait until we’re about 5-7 minutes into our journey, past the point where the main heater has begun to really warm the car, before I say something subtle like: “you know, your seat heater is still on high.”

I get looks.

I get feedback: “Yes. I know. Leave it alone.”

When I took my daughter to the hospital for surgery, I stepped the seat heater down for her after about five minutes. I figured that she wasn’t familiar with the control.

Looks. Feedback.

When I brought her home the next day, I let her have total control of the seat heater.

This past weekend, my daughter and I went to breakfast, and then onto a woodworking show. She kept the seat heater on ¾ of the way to breakfast (about 20 minutes). Then, after breakfast, she put it back on! I explained that seat heaters are only used first thing in the morning or when leaving work in the afternoon.

Looks.

Feedback.

And, she put her arm out to block any attempt of mine to reach the control.

About Dan Antion

Husband, father, woodworker, cyclist, photographer, geek - oh wait, I’m writing this like I only have 140 characters. I am all those things, and more, and all of these passions present me with opportunities to observe, and think about things that I can’t write about in other places. I have started this blog to catch the stuff that falls out, overflows and just plain doesn’t fit the other containers in my life.
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93 Responses to Coffee Tea or Heated Seats

  1. I’m with you on the coffee but not the seats. I sometimes turn mine on in the middle of summer just because it feels good on my lower back.

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  2. reocochran says:

    I am so glad the guy who invented Keurig, after he collected his millions of dollars is wishing people in homes would brew pots of coffee, Dan. He talked to a CBS interviewer about pollution and plastic cup wasteland. I like a cup of coffee that is brewed. I turn the pot off so it doesn’t get bitter and then “waste” electricity to warm up cups, while at home. I drink between 4 and 6 cups a day! :)
    I like Lipton tea best. I do but Red Rose brand while on sale. I enjoy orange flavored black pekoe while watching grandies at daughter’s house with sugar. Hot to start but don’t mind cold or iced. This was fun now need to head off to work. Have a wonderful week ahead. . . Hope not too much snow there? :(

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Not much snow for us Robin. I prefer brewed coffee to Keurig, although Keurig is all I can get at work. I often stop for a cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee on my way in. My grandmother always had Red Rose tea. I haven’t had that brand in years. Thanks for a nice memory jog. I’m not sure if I liked the tea, but I loved being with her.

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  3. Dan you remind me of that lawsuit against McCanISayThatName where someone spilled hot coffee on him/herself. After that I started saying that I like mine lawsuit hot. Coffee, tea, cocoa, soup… I stopped eating at a restaurant here because the soup was always lukewarm at the hottest. It turned out it was from a pouch that went into the microwave… for $8 a cup… Once the bartender checked it before she let me have it. “Sometimes they just heat the spoon,” she said. That time the bartender gave the tip, so I made sure to leave a good one. Have a marvelous Monday.

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    • Dan Antion says:

      I like “lawsuit hot” Teagan. It’s funny about heating the spoon. I worked for a catering company when I was in high school. We regularly served Rigatoni as a side dish. We never heated the pasta, only the sauce. We would pour scalding hot sauce over cool pasta and serve it. People loved it! I hope you’re roads are clear and your coffee is hot today!

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      • That’s good/That’s bad: The Fed is closed. But it’s my 1 assigned telework day for the week, so I have to work.
        I could probably get to my office today, but i don’t have to go in.
        Tomorrow will be worse (ice), then I’ll probably have to go in.
        :D But there’s another cup of hot coffee in my future… about 2 minutes from now! :D

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        • Dan Antion says:

          I smacked my car into a pole last year driving to work on a day when we had ice. I will never go out again in ice.

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          • That’s what I said after Snow-mageddon 2010 landed me in the hospital with sneaky black ice caused me a broken bone and surgery. Plus it’s not just about the streets — It’s about everything we have to walk on. Decision makers usually go from their home, to their cozy garaged car, to the parking garage at work. “The streets are clear! There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be at work.” Stay home, Dan. :)

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  4. Charlie says:

    I like my showers scolding hot, my coffee hot, and I agree with you on the heated seats in the car. They are designed to heat the seat not the body. Once the seat is no longer cold, I turn it off. Remember, I’m the one who wears short sleeve shirts at the office all winter long.

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    • Dan Antion says:

      We are having issues with our hot water right now. They installed a new control unit and it seems to like to mess with the water temp while I’m in the shower. I do notice those short sleeves, mainly because I’m freezing in a long-sleeve shirt and a sweater. This building isn’t known for comfort. I like “They are designed to heat the seat not the body” – I’m going to try that with my wife (I already know how that will end…)

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  5. joey says:

    I do not have seat heaters, and have rarely experienced them, so I don’t have any comment on that, other than ‘My bottom is fine at its current temp, thanks.’ Now, I will admit, on long summer days, after toiling in the garden, a sun-heated seat feels mighty nice on my lower back, but that’s a bit different.
    I’m with you on the coffee, no burning hotness there, either. I do like iced coffee. Mmm, iced coffee! :P
    I steep tea from the kettle, at boiling, like your wife and daughter though. Last week, Moo made me a fabulous cuppa tea. Sissy always could, too. I don’t know what’s wrong with Sassy or The Mister, or how exactly they make the tea, but Moo is now my go-to girl for tea. Of course, I welcome anyone making me a cuppa and will not complain about kindness.

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Thanks. Likewise, I will never complain about the temp. My wife brings me a cup of coffee to help me get out of bed and face another day of work. I’d be an idiot to say “but this is too hot” She will make me tea sometimes at night, and I know that she steeps it longer than I would, but I think she makes mine from the hot-water-faucet-thingie. I actually bought that for her. She uses it when she needs just a little hot water for cooking and, get this, to warm her cup before making tea with the kettle. She did buy me a heated lawn chair so I can sit with Maddie. I haven’t actually tried it outside yet.

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      • joey says:

        I have never heard of heated lawn chairs! You must let us all know when you try it!

        To warm her cup, eh? Well, that’s kinda cute ^_^

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        • Dan Antion says:

          She did that to my to-go coffee cup a few times. It does make the coffee much hotter. I ended up not being able to drink it until I got to work. She might do that with the coffee she gives my while I’m running the snow blower – that’s OK.

          I’ll let you know how that seat works.

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  6. I’m seeing a male vs female thing here, and I go with the women in your life. I really like coffee – beans freshly ground and hot. If it is older than 45 minutes, I start a fresh pot. I’m not a tea drinker in general but can enjoy iced tea in the summer if someone else makes it. Heated seats are just that heated seats for cold weather – flip the switch and enjoy the warmth the entire trip. :-)

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  7. I like both my coffee and tea really hot, with no milk or sugar in either. Fortunately, hubby doesn’t drink coffee or tea, so there’s never a battle about that. My last car had heated seats. I used them once and hated them – that nice cozy warmth made me want to fall asleep at the wheel, definitely not a good thing. My current vehicle does not have heated seats, and I don’t miss them at all – I guess after all these years, I’m pretty much used to the extreme cold in this area, and I have plenty of “padding” to keep me warm.

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    • Dan Antion says:

      This is the only car I’ve ever had with heated seats. Maybe I just don’t appreciate them. I guess it would be different if there weren’t separate controls. To each his/her own, but I do appreciate the support (cuz I’m not getting much). Thanks!

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  8. Almost Iowa says:

    I like my coffee hot and strong, not because I like hot and strong coffee rather we have “country water” and coffee hides the taste.

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Don’t get me started on the degree of water filtering goes into making that pot of coffee. I’m going to be publicly thankful for the fact that there is hot coffee ready for me when I wake up. Even more thankful that, on work days, the Mrs brings me that first cup.

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  9. joannesisco says:

    Oh boy. Where does one start?

    Coffee must be HOT – very hot – and fresh. I actually have an acceptable timeframe for coffee – 30 minutes from brew time. Anything beyond that will get tossed and remade.
    I drink my coffee in an insulated cup with a lid to ensure as much of the steamy hotness stays inside as possible.
    Yes – on cold days, I will even warm up my cup with hot water first.

    I’m not a tea drinker. I would like to be, but …. no, it just doesn’t work for me hot or cold.

    … and seat warmers? Glory be to the man who invented the seat warmer! .. but I’m with you on that one. I keep it on only long enough to take the chill off the seat. I really don’t like the feel of roasting buns, but I don’t care if my passenger (or the driver, as the case may be) chooses otherwise. If I ever start to smell roasting buns however, I’ll likely say something ;)

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Wow! I thought Judy was tough at 45 minutes. 30 minutes? My coffee isn’t ready yet, it needs to sit and burn for a bit before I want a cup. Thanks for the support on the seat heater, although I sense that I should adopt your open-minded approach to passengers. I wait until I smell burning flesh to complain :)

      Thanks for the comment.

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      • joannesisco says:

        I’ve had to relax my standards. It used to be 20 minutes ;)

        I used to get really disturbed in the car when I discovered that something was spilled on the seat (like coffee) and as the seat heats up, the smell wafts through the air. Ugh.
        Thankfully those days are mostly behind me now that my sons are grown and on their own ;)

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  10. Dan, I don’t know where or when you went wrong. Coffee should be as hot as possible, tea should steep for three to four minutes (PG Tips, from England, if possible) and seat heaters are the next best thing to a heating pad on your back in the morning. Dan, as with all other things, listen to the women in your life!

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Paul ??? What the…? Three for three you went against me and then you tossed in that bit of advice at the end. Geeze, don’t you realize my wife reads these comments? Ugh, I am doomed I tells ya, doomed :)

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  11. Well…I can’t speak for tea. But as for coffee: must be warm verging on hot at all times, even if that means microwaving multiple times throughout one cup of coffee. I even purchased myself a coffee warmer for $9.99 that is plugged in on my desk to keep my coffee as warm as possible between microwaving episodes. Re. seat heaters, looks and feedback would be forthcoming from me as well, although my husband doesn’t seem to be aware of your rules about usage, which is a good thing :-)

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  12. Bee Halton says:

    OMG you made me cringe about the tea but my dear you said you won’t make me a brew so I can be very, very tolerant. Enjoy your “fresh” coffee ;-)

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  13. jan says:

    I’m famous for having the seat heater on all year long! Helps with lower back pain. I just discovered Bigelow’s Pomegranate black tea – absolutely yummy stuff. (had to give up coffee a few years back!)

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  14. I’m with you on the seat heater. My wife and yours would get along. My wife’s car also has seat coolers and as you can imagine I never say anything when I’m in her car. As far as coffee is concerned I have a coffee maker that allows for perfect hot hot temperature. My tea needs to be strong and hot as well. I drink on the wild side of the tea world and the only requirement is caffeine.

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  15. Oooooh, we love our Keurig. We’re not coffee drinkers but love the teas and Starbuck’s hot chocolate. :) <3

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  16. bikerchick57 says:

    Dan, Dan, Dan…drinking Lipton tea is like drinking Bud light. Just no.

    In regard to heated seats, I don’t have them, so all I can say is I’m jealous.

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  17. I once kept my seat warmer on from Malone NY, to NYC about a 6 hours drive, but it was on “low”. I guess you would have been pretty annoyed with me. My husband just shook his head. I am always cold. What can I say?

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  18. Glynis Jolly says:

    I like my coffee best when it has sat for a couple of minutes. I don’t like burning my tongue. I like all sorts of teas, although I prefer the caffeinated to the noncaffeinated. These days I’m drinking Chi Latte tea. I consider it a “comfort” tea with a caffeine kick.

    Seat warmer? I’ve been the passenger in a Cadillac that had that feature. I wasn’t impressed. I’ve lived close to the border of Canada so I think I know what cold is, but I’ve never felt the need to have my rear end warmed.

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  19. Paul says:

    Fresh is indeed relative, Dan, but there’s no denying that coffee is at its best when it’s first made. That’s why I like having a coffee-maker that brews into a carafe (which, after all, is really just a big thermos bottle). It stays nice and warm for a long time without sitting on a burner and turning to sludge. Though I AM partial to press coffee, made with nice, dark beans that I grind just before I make each pot. Good stuff!

    As for a seat-warmer, I have yet to own a vehicle with one of those. Not really in a hurry to get one, either. I’m sure it’s nice (my brother has one), but I’ve never felt any burning need (no pun intended) to get one. But if I ever do, at least now I know how to avoid the looks and feedback! #KeepQuiet

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Pretty much good advice in a lot of situations where you opinion differs from the spouse – quiet. Sometimes, my wife will brew the coffee and transfer it into a thermos. It holds the temp a good long time, and I do like getting a hot cup at an unexpected time when she says “you know there’s coffee in the thermos.”

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  20. AmyRose🌹 says:

    I’m laughing so hard I’m practically choking. Your chart had me roaring, Dan!!! OMG! You are SO funny! Coffee ….. I make a pot that um lasts for about 3 days. *ducks under table* And not only that, I put enough coffee for me in the morning, in a pot and reheat that coffee on the stove top. I too do not like my coffee hot but drinkable so I don’t scald my tongue. Oh boy … I also put orange juice, cinnamon and raw honey in each cup of coffee because I don’t like milk. *runs for life* That being said, I think I outdid you with the coffee. Your wife would be mortified that a specimen of the female race would do such a thing. Tea …. I honestly don’t drink any except when fighting a cold. Hot seats …. Sorry, friend, I’m with your wife and daughter there. Speaking of heater …. Whenever I am with hubby in his PU truck, he cranks the heat on high and high blast. In a few moments, sweat is beaded on my forehead and I turn heat level and blast down. Silence. I get distracted and before I know it, a hand (not mine) has again turned the heat up. Feedback from me. I again turn the heat down! And it’s settled. It’s warm enough in that truck! I’ve gotten adjusted to the cold (hubby not) and so that being said, I don’t appreciate being roasted while in his PU. Great post, Dan!!! Thank you for the LAUGH!!! <3

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Thanks Amy! It’s good to know that we can have coffee. I might be with your husband, I like the car hot, not so much the seat. I’d be the one cranking it back up. In the summer, I’d be the one lowering the blast of the A/C. I;ve never tried coffee with those ingredients. I like cinnamon and it might add some sweetness. Hmm, I might try that, but maybe in tea. Now I’ve really confused things. Thanks for taking the time to comment over here.

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  21. cjparsons says:

    Nice to find a fellow coffee and tea drinker. Yep I fall in the “lukewarm” and “as long as there’s coffee in the pot, doesn’t matter how long it’s been there” category. Dare I confess that my hubby and I will take the leftover coffee home from church and reheat it until it’s gone–sometimes 2-3 days later?

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  22. So funny how everyone’s preferences differ. I have the same discussions with my husband. I like hot coffee and tea, but old and cold is fine too. I totally agree with you on the seat heat :-)

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  23. Am I the only one that feels like heated seats make me fearful that I wet myself? It is a similar sensation… particularly if you leave them on for long periods of time. ;)

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  24. Norm 2.0 says:

    We changed cars last spring and this winter for the first time I’m basking in the glory that is the heated car seat. Honey doesn’t care for them at all but I’ll NEVER go back – You can’t make me!!! I’m still learning what works best for me; turn them on ‘high’ at first and then down to ‘low’. I usually leave it there unless I get uncomfortably hot.
    As for coffee…tsk, tsk; I’m sorry Dan but I’m not sure we can still be friends….
    Coffee needs to be hot (but not scalding hot) and fresh, less than an hour old. That’s just re-heated swamp juice you’re drinking there :-(

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  25. Well, I may not agree with your coffee, tea and seat heaters, but I applaud your bravery against two females…..:)

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  26. OMG! The best invention ever…next to indoor plumbing, curling irons, and the electric tea kettle is Heated Seats in cars! I keep mine on ALL THE TIME! I start out on High and most days it stays there. I’m always cold. One of those that wears wool socks all year long, and carry hand and toe warmers all year long too, and I always have a coat with me. I totally get why you got “the look”. :)

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Wait – don’t you live in sunny warm California? I’m surprised you can even get seat heaters over there :) My wife is always looking for cooling (even though she cranks the seat heater). I might have to try keeping the seat heater on low during the summer when she wants the A/C on high. Judging from the fact that you included the tea kettle in your list, I’m guessing you’re solidly with the women in my life on these issues.

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      • Yes, but it isn’t always sunny and warm in Northern California. In fact you’d probably be surprised to learn that most of my life I’ve been bundled up in a coat, gloves, hat, and blanket to watch the fireworks on July 4th! Even the guys wear coats. When Twain said, “The coldest winter I ever saw was the summer I spent in San Francisco.” he wasn’t kidding! :)

        RE: the kettle. I’m with the ladies in your life on this one. I like my tea fresh, hot and strong! I usually let it steep 2 minutes before the first sip. It’s still a tad too hot then, but I blow on it to cool it down a bit.

        Lipton tea. When I was a girl that is what my Mom used, but our water has changed over the years and I don’t think it tastes good here anymore. Rose Tea doesn’t taste good here either. I use PG Tips and when I can’t get that I use Twinnings English Breakfast. I rarely drink herbal or flavored teas.

        Coffee- I only drink it on the road and at restaurants b/c getting a good selection of tea isn’t always possible. I like my coffee fresh, and hot!

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        • Dan Antion says:

          OK, so, three for three – I used to drink Twinnings English Breakfast Tea during a time when I was trying to cut down on coffee. It seemed strong enough to be coffee-like.

          I have been to San Francisco many times and I have experienced the strong variations in weather within very short distances. I forgot about that Twain quote – that is good.

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  27. Nato says:

    This cracked me up!

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  28. dweezer19 says:

    😳 i agree with you about coffee temperature although my preference is frappucino. Very frozen. And. Fresh. I even use a pour over system most of the time. I prefer fresh teas, the blends I concoct myself, but Luzianne and Lady Grey are favorites as well.
    I’ll be taking care of heating my own bum, thanks. Depending on the weather I may turn the heater down in the car but leave my seat heater on low. Long as I’m warm I don’t need to drive a sauna. 😉 best cover your ears now. One day I forgot and left mine on ALL day. After lunch on my way back to work I couldn’t figure out why I was sweating when I had the AC on for our daily “weather adjustment” from Mother Nature here in Florida. Lol

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Ha ha. Seat heaters in Florida. Now I have think about that. I would think those wouldn’t even be an option, but… If I’ve learned anything from the reactions to this post, it’s – to each his/her own.

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  29. dweezer19 says:

    Ha! Well just so you don’t question the vitality of your bartender, it got as low as 35 for us so that warrants seat heating opin my book, especially at 7:30 am. By noon. It was time to cut the heat. Of course if you factor in hot flashes, the dual temperature control system is a marriage saver! 😀

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  30. dweezer19 says:

    Well the good news for us has been ageing. My fluctuating body temps have caused me to be less “cold natured” and Lee’s circulation has slowed a bit causing him to be less “hot natured”. It’s a win-win for us! Good luck.

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  31. dweezer19 says:

    Time to zip up that jacket. 😉

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  32. Wendy Brydge says:

    I don’t drink much coffee, Dan. Probably no more than 3 times a month, and often it’s more like NO times a month. When I do decide to have a cup? Instant. Instant decaf, actually. My mom liked coffee (but always instant), and it makes my dad sick, so I never grew up in a house where coffee was really a “thing”. I will drink regular coffee though, if I’m out or with friends. And then, I don’t mind at all if it’s sat for a while. In fact, as long as it hasn’t been burnt, I will happily drink 3 hour-old coffee. IF it’s hot. And loaded with milk and sugar. But that’s also how I take my coffee anytime. Hot, sweet, and full of milk.

    Tea is my warm drink of choice. And again, I want it to be hot. As soon as it starts cooling down, toss it in the microwave and warm it back up. But you’re not alone in your hastily made beverage. I can’t be bothered to let my cup sit for the requisite 3-5 minutes of steeping. It’s too cold by then! I just squeeze the heck out of the bag before I pitch it. I don’t mind stronger tea either. If there are other people around and I make a pot of tea (leaving the bags in it), I’ll still sometimes drink it after a few hours. But yeah, it’s gotta be hot.

    Now, seat warmers? Never had ’em, don’t think I need ’em. But I went out with a friend last year and experienced them for the first time. When it’s 30 below Celsius, I can see these being amazing. But after just a few minutes, when that slightly sweaty sensation starts? Yeah, shut it off. I didn’t like that feeling. :P

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    • Dan Antion says:

      Thanks Wendy. I think I’m putting you 1.5 out of two with me on this one. I used to drink coffee with cream and sugar. Then black with sugar, then black, not milk and no sugar. My dad always drank it black. I don’t put anything in tea.

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