Frustration Index Near 100 – #1LinerWeds

If you visited my blog yesterday, you might have noticed something odd. Yes, it’s odd enough to find a new post on a Tuesday, but not so odd during Just Jot January. I wanted to offer a tiny hat tip to the authors I’ve met through my blog. It was going to be a simple post, with a simple gallery of images I’ve already used. So, I decided to give the Block Editor a try. That led me straight to today’s one-liner:

“Note to Block Editor – it’s not me, it’s you!”

I thought I was going to write about how I utilized a new (since the last time I looked) feature in the editor, the ability to edit blocks as HTML. I did use this feature, but it didn’t work as expected. I wanted to use it show the JusJoJan prompt, like I show the SoCS prompts – In quotes, in Linda’s SoCS prompt color, italicized, bolded and indented. I put indented in bold, because the people who have been developing the blockhead editor don’t seem to think indenting is something you should do – there’s no option. However, when you opt to edit in HTML, you can also define new styles in the Custom Style Sheet (CSS) that the page uses. In theory, that lets you edit anything.

Frustration step #1:

I wrote a bit of CSS code to define ‘Indent’ as a style element. I edited the HTML of my quote and inserted a call to my newly defined style. It worked! (I thought) The text was indented. Unfortunately, half of the HTML code in the CSS Style spilled into the next paragraph.

Frustration step #2 through infinity:

I’ll spare you the long complicated technical-jargon-laden explanation and just say:

Nothing I did kept the HTML notation from spilling into the text of the next paragraph – it’s not supposed to do that.

The block editor stopped letting me edit my block as HTML. I couldn’t fix the CSS. All I could do was delete the block and insert a new one – without the indent.

The block editor would not let me edit any of the other text I had written, including the option to add the pingback link. I added that to the badge, but that didn’t work.

I previewed the post. It looked OK. I published it.

That’s when the rest of the odd things showed up:

There was no “Like” button.

There were no “Sharing” buttons.

There was no comment box.

The HTML code for the separator bar was visible, but the bar wasn’t.

I returned to the editor but couldn’t edit anything. Since I couldn’t edit, I couldn’t update the post. I discovered that I could change the text that had already been published on Twitter. This had no effect on the Tweet, but it let me update the post and the above items appeared. I’m back in the Classic Editor today.


This post is part of Linda G. Hill’s fun weekly series One-Liner Wednesday. And, given the time of the year, it’s also part of Just-Jot-January. If you have a one-liner, I’d encourage you to join in on the fun. You can follow this link to participate and to see the one-liners from the other participants.

96 comments

  1. You have my empathy Dan. This morning I have a new follower but could neither follow back nor comment on his blog due to WordPress not recognizing my sign in then booting me out after they redirected me to an erroneous page. This is getting less enjoyable daily. For me, perhaps it is a sign. I love your fog photos even though the day was dreary. Hello lovely Maddie!

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  2. Well, on a positive note, WP let me like this post today which is a step in the right direction. More often than not, it won’t let me.
    Curiously though, I still had to subsequently log in to comment. I fail to understand WP logic. It gets odder and odder.

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    1. I appreciate the effort, Joanne. The frustrating part is that they know about many of these problems but they can’t agree on how to fix them. Somebody needs to realize that sny answer is better than the mess we have been given.

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  3. I find it highly curious why WordPress would put out the Block Editor and call it something good when even an IT guy gets frustrated when using it. Makes no sense…or perhaps that’s the problem – no common sense when it comes to practicality and ease of use. I hope WP never gets rid of the classic editor because I think then a lot of us would either A) cry, B) get severely frustrated, or C) give up. Yikes.

    I hope the fog has lifted from your house and Maddie can enjoy a sunny respite today on the garage porch. If not, then Happy Wednesday Dog Snuggles!

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    1. They keep urging us to use it, and I keep trying, but I just don’t think it’s ready for prime time. Of course, this time, it happened with a “quick post” that I wrote in the editor (I never do that), so it was publish it or lose it.

      I can understand features that don’t work, or don’t work well, but when it breaks to the point that you can’t even make changes, it should be put back on the workbench.

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  4. Oh yeah the heavy grey has been here as well, Dan. That grey gets to me! I’m begging for sunshine! I refuse to budge from the Classic Editor. Nope. What works don’t fix. I don’t trust WP as far as I can throw them with their “new and improved”. Your “horror” stories about the block editor prove my gut instincts. Sorry you’ve had so much trouble. My advice? Stick with Classic!

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    1. We have blue skies and sunshine today, Amy. It might even get a little warm. The editor is new, but I can’t say it’s improved. I’m trying to figure out a way to work with it before they make it the only option.

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        1. I don’t know when they will make the switch, Amy. but the plan has always been that, at some point, the Classic editor is history.

          I read a comment on someone else’s blog that all new themes are only compatible with the block editor.

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  5. Way to take one for the team, Dan. I still don’t think they have the block editor perfected, as you’ve clearly identified. I’m sticking with Classic too! You should design a badge of honor using the format of the sign in your picture. What would that say…hmm…? Happy Wednesday!

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    1. Thanks Shelley. Some of the things that don’t work just boggle my mind. I jumped into the developer forums for a while, and it’s clear that some people are trying to be the voice of reason, but they clearly aren’t winning the argument. If you can’t get the new features working, you could at least leave the old features available.

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    1. As long as you keep posting, we will be connected, Pam. I don’t know why the email stops. I lose people every week, and I still have to refresh the page on almost every site before I can comment.

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  6. Yikes! All that trouble and frustration could drive a person to drink!!

    Love the foggy photos! And Maddie in her “other” bed. Now Murphy wants a ScoobyDoo blanket!! Because Lord knows, she’s so deprived! Lol.

    Heavy fog here. Raining on and off. But no snow!

    Happy Hump Day!
    🐾Ginger 🐾

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    1. Aw, poor Murphy. The ScoobyDoo blanket was my mom’s. I’m not sure she’d be happy knowing that Maddie claimed it, but at least it’s being loved.

      I did have a beer at the end of that day, Ginger. We have bright sun and blue skies today. Ms Maddie might end up sitting at some point.

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  7. I’m so impressed with your persistence, Dan. You’ve given the block editor at least five more chances than I, mostly because I’m afraid I’ll throw my laptop with that sort of nonsense going on. INDENTED, block editor people. FIX IT.

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    1. Thanks Laura. I was so frustrated, with the editor and with myself. I almost always write my posts in Word. This was going to be quick and easy, but it went off the rails and into the cornfield. I’m going to reach out to the engineers at WP, but historically, they haven’t been able to help. I mostly get “we can’t recreate your error.”

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  8. I sympathize, Dan! I’ve been using the block editor, although not everything I want to do seems doable. However, I’m a fairly simple blogger, I guess, because I’ve rubbed along alright so far. How do you get in contact with anyone from WP? I don’t like that they’ve taken away the little circles on the calendar that show the days you have a post scheduled. If you schedule multiple posts in advance, you now have to go back into the Admin/Posts part and check all the dates, rather than being able to see at a glance which days you already have a post.

    janet

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    1. If you dig deep enough in the Help option of the admin screen, you can chat. They don’t seem to have the email option. I asked, in the chat, if I could just send an email, but it was suggested that we just chat about it.

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  9. LOL. When “progress” isn’t, eh? Miss the ol’ IT career yet!? I’ve been using blocks because I find it slightly easier for quotations and headings. However, it ain’t perfect and the blocks sometimes “lock” and won’t allow you to edit (refresh usually shakes it loose). Still, I’ll put WordPress over any other thing I’ve written the things on for the Web for ease of use. My biggest annoyance is my links default to some dumbass green color, but my frustration level hasn’t risen high enough for me to enter frustration level 100 as I look for a fix :)

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    1. My biggest issue is with the photo gallery options. The “old” or “classic” gallery included captions that appeared when you hover over the image and you could easily step into a carousel slide show. The new options just can’t seem to get the captions working well.

      I also grit my teeth when they refuse to add simple CSS options like changing the margin on a block. They include Blockquotes, but sometimes, you just want to indent or double indent the text, without the decorations of the quote block – I was told “that’s a print thing and you shouldn’t need it online.” Thanks.

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      1. As a former print editor who’s done online writing for decades, that’s just stupid. Sometimes, one just wants to punch a Web designer in the head. I will also now stay away from Gallery at risk of throwing my laptop through a wall. Could you create a gallery in something like Picasso and then upload? Not ideal, but might be something to work with.

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          1. You are welcome, sir (for what it’s worth!). If i ever stumble across any free slideshow type functionality, I’ll let you know. Flipbook would probably work, but it’s pricy from what I recall. You know, random thought that just popped into my head, creating a Pinterest collection could work. You could load images up for each blog into a collection (or whatever they’re called) and then link to that. Simple, free, and relatively easy. No much control on layout would be the downside.

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  10. Dan – haven’t the happiness people explained to you that you should be enjoying these improvements ? I must admit there have been a few quirky moments when I have sent the block editor off into a tizzy. I think I got so desperate to delete the post and start clean. And I was not truly doing anything creative or strange. It was just a straight post. Then again my Windows 10 machine has been doing enough to keep me frustrated. It used to be that I could scrub html out of a text string by pasting it into windows notepad. Surprise those days are gone. Notepad has been upgraded. The utility icons for the battery life remaining and sound bar control drift back and forth without warning or functionality. Then again this gives me the opportunity to view frustration as a feature and thereby increase the overall quality of my drinking time. Give yourself a 10 on the fog pictures. And advance token to the nearest Cheryl bar. Collect lemons and limes as you sit down for a Corona…

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    1. Thanks for the support, John. I hope to be able to get a few things working the way I like – I’m told I shouldn’t want things my way, that I should use the look they decided is best. Maybe I can get it to work while I’m still sober.

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          1. I know what you mean. Things should be less complicated instead of the other way around. I mentioned to you a while back concerning the problems I was having with Corel. Well, I’m still having them. I upgraded for new and better features but for the life of me I can’t get any of them. It’s been nearly a year since my last upgrade and I just gave up messing with Corel. With every upgrade I lose more than I gain, so I stopped upgrading. I wish you success with WP, Dan.

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  11. I’m sticking with the classic editor until they force me to move! I didn’t understand your coding language at all. I just need a program that lets me type, inserts images, and post! I hope they don’t make it any harder than that.

    I love the foggy images, and Maddie cuddled with her blankie.

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  12. That’s a long one liner😁. I quite like the Guterburg Editor, ( block editor) I love the size of text variations, the colours , everything really but it does take some getting used too. And I am not keen on the way it shows the “verse block” I have learned to get around that niw. Do give it another try Dan it getting better. Loved the photos 💜

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    1. My big complaint is with the new photo galleries. The way they handle (or don’t handle) captions is awful. I don’t compose my posts in the editor, I write in Word and paste it in, so I don’t care about the editor functions. When I write dialog posts, I would prefer a long flowing page as opposed to 50-60 individual blocks, but there’s no way around that.

      I do keep trying, but it’s been frustrating.

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  13. Dan, I have steered clear of the block editor. I find myself dipping into the HTML tab on the classic editor because of some weird glitches there. I think that is the problem with knowing how to code something natively then using some wraparound technology improperly.

    I have used the Divi WP theme (block oriented) for several sites (it was indeed my nemesis yesterday) and I found it too heavy handed. Have you considered that your theme might also be getting in your way? I always go to to Chrome’s developer tools to sort out who is breaking the code.

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  14. Thanks for sharing your problems with the block editor. I’ve tried it several times and thought I was the reason it didn’t work right. I gave up trying. WordPress needs to figure out something better than block editor if they expect people to use it. It’s a royal pain. As usual, I like the photos; especially of Maddie. She seems like a sweet dog. I grew up with an Irish Setter named Pat. He was the best dog any kid could ask for. Even now I still miss him. I’m pretty sure all dogs go to heaven when they leave this earth.

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      1. I hear you. No two dogs are alike. Pepper is our sweetest dog where as Bella has a mind of her own. We can’t make her do anything she doesn’t want to do. When it’s raining she will not go outside; she’ll just hold it or we have to take her out on a leash. But she’s loving and very protective over our great-grand kids. So she’s a keeper.

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          1. I think Bella has something neurological going on and that’s why she ended up in the pound. She is the most difficult dog to handle that we’ve ever had. I’m afraid to walk her because I fear she’ll make me fall (she has several times in the past) and I can’t afford to break a bone. After 4 years she’s just now learning to behave a little better. If I didn’t care for her so much she would have been long gone. But she’s the type of dog that needs special attention and I’m afraid that someone else may mistreat her.

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  15. Dan, from everything I have read, I am only going to use the Block Editor when I absolutely have to. My patience is not the best under normal circumstances. Adding Block Editor into the mix may cause my head to explode! :)

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    1. That’s how I write my posts, too, Janis. When you past into this editor, it splits each paragraph into its own block. It works pretty well, but subsequent editing is a pain if you do something that would merge paragraphs.

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  16. Oh now, see, I wasn’t going to get all technical about it, but “The block editor stopped letting me edit my block as HTML. I couldn’t fix the CSS. All I could do was delete the block and insert a new one – without the indent.” I have had that! Not the indent, but the HTML! And also, go to edit and the whole thing deletes! I end up undoing and backspacing and it’s time consuming. I hate it. Hate it.

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    1. I have had that same thing happen. It seems that, at best, you get one serious edit and then you better be happy. Galleries are the worst. If you change the layout twice, you lose pictures and cannot get them back.

      This thing isn’t ready for prime-time.

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