As I’ve been trying to provide a little guidance about the Block Editor, I’ve had to learn a few things about the editor. It’s not much help to say, “just go poke around and see what you can find out.” It would be even less help to say, “oh, you probably can’t do that.” Yet, that is the way I was treated by the company that hosts our family email.
Earlier this year, this company switched our email from an in-house (their house not ours) mail server to Microsoft’s Office 365 platform. We didn’t ask for this change, and we weren’t happy with it – are you sensing a pattern here? If the following seems long and boring, please believe me when I say this is distilled from an online chat session that lasted almost two hours.
When we log in to check our email, our provider authenticates us (username and password) and sends us to the Office 365 Home screen. We then have to open our inbox. Since the only thing we use in this Office 365 implementation (we already have an Office 365 subscription) is the email, we want to go straight to the inbox.
The tech-support technician told me they could not accommodate my request. I disagreed. He insisted. I disagreed. He checked with his colleagues, they agreed with him. I disagreed. In my defense, I sent him text from several articles that said that what I wanted to do was in fact, possible. I even sent him a link that explained what they needed to do to accommodate my request. I added that when we implemented Office 365 in my department while I was still employed, we were able to do exactly what I wanted to do.
He refused to help, insisting that I was asking the impossible. After the chat session ended, another hour’s worth of research led me to a solution I could implement from my side of the equation. That solution works well. So, my one-liner for this week is:
“You can’t possibly help others if you don’t know what you’re doing!”
This post is part of Linda G. Hill’s fun weekly series One-Liner Wednesday. If you would like to join in on the fun, you can follow this link to participate and to see the one-liners from the other participants.
I feel your pain Dan. Rather than just admit they they didn’t know they told you it wasn’t possible. It’s called customer service.
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Thanks. It’s supposed to be service. They just want to get you off the phone.
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Hi Dan – so often the case … one has to tie one’s self up in knots to find out an answer. You did it … but yes – NO I don’t call that support. People aren’t interested or curious to help and garner knowledge – drives me batty too … love the photos … enjoy those walks – cheers Hilary
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They just want to get you off the phone/chat and move onto the next poor slob.
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I think you should set up your own tech hotline. You know more than they do anyway. 👍
Two Smokey’s and a bunny? My day is now complete.
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See, that’s how you treat your customers. The bunny is a gift. Smokey & Smokey had to be bribed.
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Oh what a perfect one-liner that is!!
I can’t count how many times I happen to call a customer service line and I get transferred all over their building until I finally get disconnected!! The latest was, my car insurance agent didn’t know much of anything about the car wise devise in my car – he’ll call back……… still waiting………
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Meanwhile, I’ve been waiting over a week for the Happiness Engineers to figure out why WordPress keeps dropping my followers.
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If they won’t listen to helpful advice, then I was right in the first place – Idiots.
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Customer Service, or Tech-Support Technicians, whatever, are why liquor is such a big seller! I once called my health insurance Custom Service because I needed to make sure a particular procedure was covered. I was told that it was. I called a second time because it was still nagging at me, and that rep told me it was NOT covered! WTH! /@?$}£\¥+. (insert scream here). Fortunately it was covered.
Maddie must be feeling her ‘sillies’ ! Smokey and Smokey have become a team. They are too cute. I’m jealous of your Flowering Quince…..mine aren’t blooming yet. And your neighbor’s Rhododendron is beautiful. Mine is still only buds. Sigh…. Reflection photo is great. But Old Glory beats them all!
Ginger
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Oh, Ginger, I’ll scream with you on this one. We wait on hold. Then we wait while they put us back on hold. Then we wait for them to call back.
The Smokeys are a tag team now. The grey squirrels are like a marauding army. Meanwhile, the bunny just munched on our weeds.
I’m glad you liked the flag. I just love seeing in flap in the wind.
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Yep, you speak the truth. I suppose it all depends on how you define the word ‘support’.
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Being told my request is impossible is not support 🙁
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What is the internet coming too ? Your provider offers Lookout as the email service ? And drops you somewhere near the backdoor ? Look for the big oak tree right after you cross the bridge. Your mailbox is the one that has been smashed by one of the fallen oak branches. Your email will be scattered on the ground amongst the leaves. Some day the internet providers are going to steal the government’s line… Hi I’m here from the ____________ internet provider company. I am here to help you. Please fill out this questionaire and when your done take the survey.
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That’s exactly how it feels getting our mail. Like it’s out back on the ground. I did complete the survey, and this guy did not get all tens as requested.
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I’ll tell you what my mother would say in a similar situation that sometimes worked. “Let me speak to your manager.” It’s been my experience with tech support that some people know what they’re doing and some just look it up in the script manual or push an autogenerate button. I’ve even had success hanging up and calling again so I would get a different person on the phone, maybe one who was courteous and helpful. I’m glad you figured out how to make things work without getting a Bozo involved. People like that give the GOOD tech support people a bad name. /climbs carefully down from soapbox/
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Haha. Climb up in that soapbox and preach! He did get others involved, but they were no help. Of course, he could have just told me he had others involved. Researching for myself was better than arguing with KnowNothing and DoNothing as my father round have called these guys.
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Oh brother–by agreeing that you were right, would it make nimwit look like he doesn’t know his job? That is ridiculous, Dan, but I am not surprised that you figured it out. Guess it’s not worth your time or trouble to call back and say, “Guess what I found out….?”
That upside down reflection is so pretty! It looks like a lensball photo. You know, if I took the time to try taking pictures with my lensball set…
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I’m tempted to call them back, but my luck, I’d get some super sweet person this time.
So lensball is like your personal puddle ?
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You’ve mastered puddle photography. I need to work on my, shall we call them, ‘skills’ with the lensball? 😂
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I’ve been playing in puddles since I was a kid.
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That’s so true!! I think your call should have been escalated up the ladder to the “real” IT group. Still, I am glad you were able to figure out a way to do what you wanted yourself. I wouldn’t be able to that’s for sure!
That reflection is lovely as are the quince buds, and other blooming flowers.
We woke up to snow and below-freezing temperatures during the night so I am wondering if the blooms here will wither now? We put out our cushions and turned on the sprinklers a week too soon methinks. 🤨
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We’re heading back into the 40s, but I don’t think there’s a frost warning.
The tech said he got others involved, but I have my doubts.
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The problem is you tried to confuse them with facts, Dan!
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Hahaha – I think you’re right, Maggie.
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I have found too many help desks are almost as clueless as me. And that is saying a lot.
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Sometimes I think they are setup for only the most basic questions. They don’t seem to provide real support.
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An unfortunately apt one-liner, Dan. I can relate.
Terrific gallery though. The 2 Somkey photo has the old “Double Vision” song in my head. (And WordPress thinks I’ve spelled smokey wrong, no matter how I spell it. They should talk to Mr. Robinson…) Hugs on the wing!
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At the moment, I’ still working with WordPress on the issue of my followers being dropped, some several times. They are trying to help, but making little progress.
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I stopped trying to get notifications years ago. I had to redo all my follows so many times. (Intentionally unfollow and then refollow — a lot of work). Now I just try to keep up with everyone as well as I can. Choosing my battles, so to speak.
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I have had to do the unfollow/follow drill many times. I really don’t understand how they can get this so fouled up. I’ve had to work this problem from the other side (me getting booted off). I just don’t get it.
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I think many support people like to say “not our fault” too much and that’s really shitty customer support!
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Each time the tech said he was going to check with someone else, he was really just going for another cup of coffee and hoping you’d be gone by the time he returned. BTW, the only reason I’m still here on WP at all is because you and another blogger were able to help me with the Block Editor. Of course, by the time I get comfortable with it (if I ever do), the WP gods will decide to change it to something else.
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We wouldn’t want to lose you, CM. Hang in there.
I think this guy determined from the start that my request was impossible and nothing was moving him off that spot.
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That’s a very sweet comment, Dan. Thank you. It’s readers like you who keep me here.
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I’m glad you had the lovely photos to offset the irritation I felt on your behalf in the written part. I thought you were going to be talking about WP. :) Wonder why? Glad you worked it out but it shouldn’t be so difficult.
janet
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I’m sorry to spread my frustration around. The folks at WP’s support dest are trying to figure out why some of my followers keep getting booted off my ship.
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😢
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Wished I knew enough to even discover what it possible, but I totally agree with you – if you are one who’s working for the support side, how can you support, if you know less than the bloggers? Glad you found out in the end what you wanted to know! Jesh
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I think they staff the support desks with people who can answer the basic questions and not much more. I was hoping to get bumped along to a better resource.
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Since it’s wordpress, I think your request/expectation was not unreasonable!
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Oh, how I love Spring! Beautiful photos of new life — budding trees, little creatures (and big ones). Wonderful! Thank you for the jaunt. And, your one-liner is perfect!
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Thanks Gwen. It gets prettier every day.
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I think they go to a special school to learn how to be obtuse and unhelpful.
Actual conversation I had with a customer care person about my electric car’s battery:
Me: I’ve read online that [manufacturer] doesn’t know when the replacement batteries will be available.
CCP: You can’t believe everything you read online.
Me: I am referring to the NTSA website and various forums, not random google searches.
CCP: Even the NTSA doesn’t know everything.
Me: OK, so when will the batteries be available?
CCP: We don’t know.
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That’s Saturday Night Live quality. How could you possible sit there and say those things.
I hope you get your battery.
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Cool reflection puddle!
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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Thanks. I can’t resist those.
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Woo, Dan, I felt this one. I’ve been working with a help desk on a project and if I hear “our system can’t do that” one more time…. UGH.
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Doesn’t that just drive you nuts? Your system can’t do that? Then FIXB IT!
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I spent three years managing a tech support team, and came to the conclusion that a larger fraction of the not-so-good engineers drift into support rather than development. This changes the culture of the support group and encourages the kind of behaviour that you write about. I spent most of the three years trying to spot the better people and building a team of trouble-shooters inside support. The others were people who would then routinely carry out the schemes that the core group developed. It worked well for some time; but engineers move around in organizations (and some even migrate to management) …
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Good support takes the right people and the kind of effort you were willing to make. I managed developers, and they were never very good at support, even for the systems they wrote.
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All in all, I prefer to work in development rather than support. I suppose that is the kind of attitude that creates these problems. Too bad not much came out of “literate programming”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literate_programming
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Good for you on being persistent. I have been in the shoes of the one who has no idea how to do the requested. Ugh. Frustrating for both sides.
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When it became clear they didn’t want to help, I moved from frustration to anger. Then I just decided to see if I could fix it myself. It would be easier if they fixed it on their end, but…
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Would be better if they could fix it on their end, I agree.
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Perfectly expressed. 😕I love the puddle reflection. 🙂
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I can’t resist the puddles. 🙂
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😀
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Here’s your chuckle for this morning. Janet mentioned ‘slider’ so I came back to refresh my mind, but realized I hadn’t gotten this post. I went over and signed up to ‘follow’ you again, but got a message “You’re already subscribed to this site!” I love it as it as I’m sure you do. If I’m subscribed, why the heck don’t I get the posts. :-) I am so mature, I remember when companies had ‘customer service’ departments staffed with trained personnel. Now, you mostly talk to the hand. :-)
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Ugh. I’m so sorry, Judy. The Engineers have been working on this, but I’m afraid there’s more to do. Maybe this is a sign that they’re getting close (optimist in me speaking).
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Well said! Perfect one liner, Dan. I love your photo gallery.
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Thanks Jennie. I like to have nice pictures when the post is about frustration.
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A good plan!
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“You can’t possibly help others if you don’t know what you’re doing!” Ha, so true. If only that stopped some people from trying … O_o
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Or companies from hiring them !
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Love the photo gallery….love the one liner….so true!!
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Thanks Kirt. I wish the one liner was more of a joke.
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Truly….sad statement!!
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